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  1. Travis

    I agree with you, I think Hunt is the best WR entering the Big COO. Best combination of upside and sure thing. Him and Raegor compliment each other really well. Will be a nasty combo.

    • ianaboyd

      Without watching the Baylor dudes, here are the guys I’d put in contention for best WR signed by a B12 team in 2018.

      Bryce Wheaton, WVU
      KaSean Carter, TT
      Myller Royals, TT
      Jaylon Robinson, OU
      CJ Moore, OSU
      Jonathan Shepherd, OSU
      Brennan Eagles, TX
      Te’Vailance Hunt, TCU

      I think Hunt is the most “sure thing” of the group followed by CJ Moore from Okie State. I also think Myller Royals is a pretty “sure thing” but with a lower ceiling. Brennan Eagles has the highest upside of anyone, including Hunt, and Wheaton and Shepherd rank high in that regard as well (though not higher than Hunt). Right now I like Hunt best overall but wouldn’t rule out another guy on this list ending up being more successful. I’d bet on the field unless I got pretty good odds.

      Texas’ other two guys may also be dynamite and Kundarrius Taylor is another one. Everyone always strikes rich with WRs and next year’s crop looks insanely loaded as well. Garrett Wilson and Joshua Moore, whom Texas are after, don’t look like guys anyone will want to try and cover.

      • Travis

        Agree on all fronts. I’d add Fleeks and Thornton from the Baylor class, will be interesting to see if you agree. Fleeks as more of a sure thing, Thornton with crazy upside.

        Your point about everyone in the Big XII habing awesome WR play is so spot on. Baylor retained relatively good WR play last year, still went 1-11.

        • ianaboyd

          LOL, yeah exactly. And Mims was probably amongst the 3 best WRs in the league last year.

        • croyse

          To be fair, Baylor had a whoooole lot of problems beyond WR, lol. I’d like last year’s corps just fine if we had had a decent OL/ground game to make life easier for them.

  2. Davey O'Brien

    Damn, do you even pay attention to what is happening in Ft. Worth?

    The biggest question about Justin Rogers is not his footwork or if he ends up at receiver, but the recovery of the knee. Roger is going through very limited action in spring practice and no one really expects anything from him until next Spring. Wide receiver?

    Speaking of wide receiver Taye Barber has been working out at wide receiver and been drawing raves for the explosiveness he brings to the position. If he plays anywhere else other than wr it will be in some spot duty in the backfield. Don’t be surprised if Derius Davis ends up at wr and he has already gone sub 48 in the 400M this year so no one in Ft Worth is worried about his 40 time.

    In response to your comments about Wells I won’t put them in the same realm as your comment about Rogers playing wide receiver, but all I know is Cumbie wanted him and feels he can do for TCU what Amaro did for Tech, but what would Sonny know about skill players right?

    Nothing worrisome about John Stephens. Send all the 6’4″ 210 lb athletes with a 7′ wingspan and athletic enough to hit their head on the back board while blocking a shot to Ft Worth. Stephens is from a poor school in North La., played multiple sports, and wins. What is to worry about? Athletically he might be the best prospect in the class.

    The three offensive linemen who you mentioned concern about their athletic ability or size to play tackle all were recruited to play inside so once again I will trust CT.

    Love the bread comment. Frogs have recruited “bread” in the d-line for years and that bread held its own against Stanford in the bowl game and against multiple offensive lines with higher rated recruits. Funniest thing you said in regards to the d-line is Summers replacing Boesen. Dude, Ben is flippings sides and LJ Collier is wrecking shop in spring ball just as he did in the second half of the bowl game at d-end. Interesting part there is Collier gives TCU a big end to play on side of a TE which ties up the o-line.

    In regards to d-tackle the Frogs returned not only Big Ross, but two other “loaves” in Bethley and red-shirt George Ellis. Keep sending that type of bread Gary’s way.

    Finally, I love your comments about Washington because all you see the kid do on film is make plays. Kid has great instincts and it has been proven time and time again in the TCU secondary if you trust what you are taught and have instincts you can be effective, but once again I am trusting the opinion of a coach who somehow keeps winning despite recruiting bread and midgets.

    • ianaboyd

      The biggest question about Justin Rogers is not his footwork or if he ends up at receiver, but the recovery of the knee.

      I’m talking about during his next four years, not his freshman year.

      Speaking of wide receiver Taye Barber has been working out at wide receiver and been drawing raves for the explosiveness he brings to the position. If he plays anywhere else other than wr it will be in some spot duty in the backfield. Don’t be surprised if Derius Davis ends up at wr and he has already gone sub 48 in the 400M this year so no one in Ft Worth is worried about his 40 time.

      If you read the article I wasn’t worried about Davis’ 40 time either and I’m guessing where guys will play when I don’t know, which is also obvious if you practice reading comprehension. This is one of the most sensitive collection of critiques I’ve seen.

      but all I know is Cumbie wanted him and feels he can do for TCU what Amaro did for Tech, but what would Sonny know about skill players right?

      I’m just offering my opinions, I’m not pretending they’re anything else. Why would that anger you?

      Stephens is from a poor school in North La., played multiple sports, and wins. What is to worry about? Athletically he might be the best prospect in the class.

      I don’t know how you read the sections on Stephens and got much other than me saying he’s a great raw athlete of the sort that TCU loves and that I’m just not sure how it will manifest yet.

      The three offensive linemen who you mentioned concern about their athletic ability or size to play tackle all were recruited to play inside so once again I will trust CT.

      Which is where I projected all of them to play while noting that the Frogs have been good at utilizing guys like that.

      Funniest thing you said in regards to the d-line is Summers replacing Boesen. Dude, Ben is flippings sides and LJ Collier is wrecking shop in spring ball just as he did in the second half of the bowl game at d-end. Interesting part there is Collier gives TCU a big end to play on side of a TE which ties up the o-line.

      Well good for Collier, I haven’t seen enough of him at DE to have a good feel for him playing there. I don’t know why it’s funny that I suggested Summers could play there since he’s done it before and TCU is very deep at LB.

      In regards to d-tackle the Frogs returned not only Big Ross, but two other “loaves” in Bethley and red-shirt George Ellis. Keep sending that type of bread Gary’s way.

      The point was that TCU tends to use DTs to hold the point and not to cause a lot of disruption and that they’ve probably done fine at getting guys who can do it.

  3. Philly Frog

    Yo Ian.

    The Frogs under Gary have always tended to be two steps forward and one back. I’ve kind of resigned myself to never having the luxury of going into a year fully locked and loaded at all position groups. There will always be a weakness in the fence somewhere.

    On McKinney: from your lips to God’s earbuds, or something.

    On Stephens: Gary will make him an NFL DE. Cumbie will need to keep looking.

    Atanza Vongor: I keep hearing his name announced WWE style. A-Tanza Von—GOR!!!!!!!! He’s what Peanut wished he was.

    Davey makes a good point above. Bethley may well end up better than Blacklock. He plays with a primal attitude that I appreciate as a former HS DT, where the game doesn’t matter nearly as much as does the question of who survives, me or you.

    OU, TCU and the rest of the conference are just playing tiddlywinks until the Horns figure things out, anyway.

    • ianaboyd

      Bethley seems like he could be good, the Frogs always do fine at DT. My point was mostly about how they use those guys. They tend to get by without NFL tackles but often make a lot of dudes like Bethley.

      I think Texas may win the league next year but they’re at least two years away from being nationally competitive. I just think the league will be down and they’ll be well situated.

  4. […] Here’s my breakdown of the 2018 class, which begins with me explaining how I overlooked the Frogs heading into 2017 but why I still wasn’t all that bullish on them for 2018. At this point I think it’s safe to say that either Patterson has figured out how to get back to having top defenses every year. Here’s a look at the actual 2019 class, which includes a few more options at both of those spots. […]

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